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. bin laden's trying to take our eye off of the real threat, iraq. >> because they're obsessed. they got to go to iraq! that's what they came to do, start a war with iraq. who cares who's actually going to be a threat to us? look, the c.i.a. had to do a briefing. >> what kind of morons are you? it's not iraq! how stupid are you? it's not iraq! it's bin laden and he's coming. look at this: may one 2001, this is just a partial list, july 29, july 9, july 11 july 24 and the famous one on august 6, they're coming, they're coming, do something do something! you loser you failure. do something! he didn't do anything. that's why he had the stupid look on his face when we got hit reading to the kids, oh, my god they hit us. they weren't just covering their ass. they ignored the intelligence because they had none! >> after the attacks condoleezza rice said: >> this is during the 9/11 commission hearings: >> he made clear to me, that is bush, that he did not want to respond top al-qaeda one attack at a time. he told me he was tired of swatting flies. after 9/11, they call it swatting flies. some o
, there's no way in the world we would have invaded iraq and my god is it a different world if that's the case. >> stop right there if you will. i deal with that in the book. just to set briefly the framework, i think al gore would have been much more knowledgable and attentive about al-qaeda. i believe for the sake of the fiction that the cia. i think under those circumstances, al gore would have pushed hard against iraq. up not only would have had republicans urging it, you would have had many democrats who believed that sadaam had weapons of mass destruction. >> who cares he didn't attack us. >> uh-uh. i'm not arguing. >> there's no way vice president gore would have been that irrational. no way. >> chenk that's -- you're not listening to me. i agree with you. you're hitting a straw mat. i am suggesting that the politics would have been much tougher. vice president lieberman who would have been vice president would have been as anxious to go into iraq as dick cheney. he was one of the leading hawks of either party and so the picture i paint is not al gore going into iraq, no. he
's got to run somehow. somehow, we've got to have enough money to invade iraq. when mitt romney said i'm going to pay nothing was it then called an intentionally defective grantor trust he's screwing you on that and screwing you when he moves his money to the cayman islands. we all want to do that, but you got to pay your taxes when you do it. in fact, here is steven brightstone, a person who deals with these kind of estate maneuvers all the time. he says: >> in other words god we used to do that he is tricks all the time so the rich wouldn't have to stay taxes. remember romney talking about that 47% that doesn't pay federal in come tax, can you believe what funds they are? how about you you didn't pay a dime on that $100 million. you're the bum. you're the cheat. when he was asked hey have you done anything where you can show empathy toward other human beings? that seems an easy question, right no here's what mitt romney says. >> don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 100% of the kids in our state have health insurance. i don't think there is anything that shows more empat
don't know about that as someone who lives in downtown manhattan. a lot of us which the iraq war had never happened, but i think had 9/11 not hand, they would have found a way to have the iraq war anyway. you could make the argument that thanks to the work of our troops, and this president, that terrorism has been neutralized more than ever. >> but we don't have hab us corpus now. >> there's that too. for me it is a day that always will remind when people are screaming which side are you on with us or the terrorists. i like to say i'm on the side of anyone who is trying to solve the problems peacefully. >> right. any -- any religion that wants to end violence is fine as long as it's christian. that's your point. >> john: yes as long as it's christian. because violence is okay when my side does it. not religion is responsible hard core right-wing fundamentalists are responsible. >> right. >> john: we see it -- we saw it 11 years ago with the predominantly saudiw terrorists. america was attacked by zero iraqi, and zero afghans. >> yes and the worst attack happened wit
they respect our culture? i'll have to explain how things work here. if muslims say george bush invaded iraq, and george bush, the president of the united states, he equals america. i could say look, it pains me. 70% of the country now does not like this guy. he was our president and we are a democracy. i get it. if they say president obama equals america. he is our president. he does drone strikes. they might not like drone strikes because it kills family members. they might be mad at obama i get it. but if they say pastor terry terry jones represents america. this guy is a village idiot. don't you have a village idiot in sudan libya? if you pull that raving lunatic aside and said this is muslim this is one showing to ten people. this doesn't even come close to equaling america. i heard there is a rear view mirror center libya that is widely watched movie in america. nobody even knew about it until you guys started doing your protest. it had no viewers. it does not equal america. then how about big blow hards like rush limbaugh who says outrageous things whether it's about our president or
another after another, everything from a housing crisis to the war in iraq to the collapse of the financial markets to anthrax in the mail, to the soars epidemic. one crisis you can say that has come up under his watch was the bp oil spill and everyone agrees that he did an excellent job with that. america he needs to get going on its own. >> eliot: there are two ways to interpret. i think your logic is impeccable and it's an important point to make. sometimes you just regroup and wait for things to calm down. if you had to pick a word to characterize the bush administration era was chaos. it was a pin ball bouncing from one crisis to another. some of those things were not his doing. you have to acknowledge sometimes external events can frame a presidential era beyond the president himself. and jimmy carter would be one that you would make that argument. do you agree with that at all? >> i think you many of the crisis were created by the white house. we had $4 a gallon because the president was an oil man. many of these crises were man- man-made crises but white house-made
fired teargas in attempts to get them to disperse. similar protests also appeared in iran, iraq, bangladesh, morocco, sudan and tunisia. in libyan, there was a gathering design to show appreciation for the united states. hundreds of libyans amassed outside the consulate, airing signs denouncing yesterday's violent destruction which led to the death of u.s. ambassador christopher stevens and three others. in addition libyan authorities arrested four men suspected of instigating the protests. president obama called both egyptian president morsi and magariaf. the two calls had decidedly different tones. president obama expressed appreciation to libyan president magariaf for the cooperation received from the libyan government and people in responding to the attack. though questions still remain about the role libyan terrorists played in escalating the attacks. with respect to egypt the president had made an interesting comment in an interview earlier yesterday with telemundo. >> would you consider the current egyptia
of the outspoken voices against the war in iraq we've been fortunate for her distinguished services. i had a chance to talk with congresswoman woolsey as she prepares stepping away from her seat. >> eliot: thank you for joining me rather than a tv screen. you've been here during a period of tulmult, when you look back over the 0 years what have you seen and what do you expect to happen. >> i remember thinking how nice people were to one another senior members would help junior members make a stand and be heard. but the negative surprise was our schedule. under the democrats it was so terrible. we never knew if we were going to okay now 20 years later, it's flipped. people just aren't able to negotiate or to compromise. we're not mean to each other. we still like each other and laugh in the elevators, you know but it's false. >> eliot: at a substantive level there is no engagement. >> no engagement. >> eliot: there is no intellectual engagement. parties are talking past each other. >> right. >> eliot: why is that? are there two different ideologies that people can't speak to one another? >> ideologi
of the last out of iraq. >> yeah, since 2006 we have raised millions of dollars on issues. yeah, i finally got to leave at the very end. >> stephanie: john -- obviously the woman that introduced michelle obama very powerful because the republicans once genuine this issue, and she is like i got one of each. >> to the first lady's credit the first lady and dr. biden have done incredible work to help veterans. the first lady is not a veteran. you know? and she has taken on sort of our issues as her own. and sure dr. biden, has served in iraq his son, they have obviously a very personal connection, but they have done a lot of work just on ptsd research at medical schools and the first lady is going to have a lot of personal connections, because she has dedicated herself to that. >> stephanie: how offended when someone asked mitt romney about his five sons not serving, and he said they are serving a higher purpose trying to get me elected. >> wow. you would get 25,000 people forwarding something around on facebook, and the activists who sign up because they want to figh
and iraq. >> i find that sort of understandable. go you think about it, the republicans have been out of the white house since '92. back in '92, the national security threats were other countries. from '92 through 2000, you had members of what became the bush war council involved in national security issues all dealing with iraq. so they come into office in 2001 and they sit down with the clinton beam and the clinton beam said really what you need to worry about is al-qaeda. and what the bush people hear is the biggest threat to our national security is a bunch of guys sitting on a mountain top in afghanistan? >> eliot: it was a foreign language. >> it was a foreign language to them. the inther of 2001 was -- the summer of 2001 was chin tbha, it was russia, it was north korea. the standard national security stuff from ten years earlier. >> eliot: also the residual anger, tbrus -- tbrus ration that the job hadn't been completed. wolfowitz and the others were there at the pentagon saying we want to tbsh the job. >> ri
. and jayar made the comment that when they didn't show the coffins after the iraq war, that's just propaganda. you have to know the cost of war. and then our second topic, todd akin. he is doing it again. he made the famous comments about if it's legitimate rape a women's body has a way of shutting down so it doesn't get pregnant. and he has a debate with senator mccaskill. he said this . . . now senator mccaskill had a chance to respond. she said this. >> i don't know exactly what his accusation that i'm not lady like means. i'm a former courtroom prosecutor and i try to be strong and informed and i think the debate was tough for todd because i went through the list of his very, very extreme positions, and i think that maybe he wasn't prepared to answer to some of that. >> cenk: ana how would you feel if a guy said you shouldn't be as aggressive as you were because that's not lady like. >> i would be livid and that would lead me to be even more unlady like. [ laughter ] >> cenk: michael? >> it is amazing. every kay there is something new. mitt romney must be
. we'll be joined by former congressman patrick murphy from pennsylvania, iraq war vet first vehicle war vet to serve -- first iraq war vet to serve in the united states congress. it was not exactly the second coming but it was certainly treated that way in the high tech world at any rate with the unveiling of the iphone yesterday. iphone 5 by apple. john herrman is the deputy tech editor of "buzzfeed." joining us this morning on our news line. hey, john, good to talk to you. >> good morning, bill. >> bill: from what you saw yesterday, how good is it and what are the new features of the iphone 5? >> well, it's been a pretty long time since apple has given us a real surprise with the new iphone. this is no different. this is a lot like the iphone 4s. it's got a lot of incremental improvements. it has 4g wireless which will basically make using the phone feel like it is next to wi-fi at all times. it has a new camera. it's got a slightly new case so it's made out of aluminum in the back rather than the extre
in iraq is over. we're winding down the war in afghanistan. look at healthcare. some 50 million americans could not afford to -- couldn't get healthcare even if they could afford to buy it four years ago. today, there are 36 million more americans covered by health insurance, pre-existing condition requirement on the part of insurance companies no longer list. healthcare is in place. we're as close to universal healthcare something we've talked about for 100 years we're as close to it as we've ever been in this country. look at the market. market was below nine, maybe even below eight under george w. bush. today it's aren't you tenley -- routinely closing above 13,000. corporate profits reported for the last three years. the highest ever on record. one record after another. look at the automobile industry. four years ago in bad, bad shape. mitt romney saying we ought to let it collapse. president obama moved in. today, the auto industry is back bigger than ever. i mean jobs, 800,000 jobs lost. private sector jobs l
soldier in iraq, in uniform in iraq, who wanted to know about don't ask don't tell. listen to -- it was somewhere down south. and listen to the reaction of the crowd to one of our soldiers. >> in 2010 when i was deployed to iraq, i had to lie about who i was because i'm a gay soldier. i didn't. to lose ply job. -- i didn't want to lose my job. my question is do you intend to circumvent the -- or gay and lesbian soldiers in the military. >> bill: before anybody could even answer, the crowd boos him. so with all of that background, this -- now this study, released yesterday by the williams institute which is part of the ucla law school. they interfered 553 generals and admirals. they interviewed many, many members of the military in all branches both gay and straight. and they found a year after okay, a year after don't ask don't tell has been repealed, get this. they found no overall negative impact on military readiness unit cohesion, recruitment retention or morale. in other words no negative effects of the
in iraq in part. and why you hear republicans in part trying to get us into war with iran and russia. and mitt romney said if you thought it was okay to use bed bath and beyond coverage to get your medicare coverage and you thought you could do without your student loans and the health insurance you needed, but you still wanted romney you cannot afford to have this man in the oval office answering these questions. unfortunately -- and fortunately it seems like people are coming to that conclusion on their own. you have all of your different things, and mitt romney has everything he has ever wanted handed to him on a silver platter. >> john: except the senate and the white house -- >> right but these were all steps along the way. he has sold his soul to the devil to make it so but the sad reality for mitt romney is that the toughest decision he is going to have to make next year is what color of crovot to put on for ballet sports competition, because he is not going to be making any of the decisions he wanted to make in the oval office. >> john: i want to say
in targeting our foreign policy has been able to say we're out of iraq. we will be out of afghanistan but we managed to destroyed al-qaeda. that's where our foreign policy should be focused on. there is a sense that we succeeded in our objective and that's why the president is standing so well on foreign policy issues. >> it's a clear example where he had promise and he delivered on them. and mitt romney who did mention afghanistan in his nomination speech. they didn't really focus on in their convention or in the speechers or really in mitt romney's proposals or what he's saying about himself. again, it's a real important contrast. i agree with borris, there are not a lot of single-issue foreign policy voters but nonetheless it's a clear advantage for obama and a disadvantage for romney in terms of what he has been trying to say and the proposals he's being putting out there. >> eliot: i know you want to rebut that with the obama administration foreign policy but answer that, and then tell us how mitt romney foreign policy actually differ because i have trouble seeing the divide between the
and joseph lieberman wrapped up their visit to iraq where they urged top officials to support the effort to overthrow assad. newly elected egyptian president moment morsi surprised some this week appearing to stand strong against assad warning that his time won't be long. joining me now to discuss the late nest syria is marc ginsberg, former u.s. u.s. ambassador to morocco who also served as deputy senior adviser for middle east policies to president carter. welcome. >> thank you. >> with the report of chemical weapons, this sounds treacherous. >> it does. you indicated there are hundreds of thousands of refugees streaming across syria's northern border with turkey and southern board with jordan creating an humanitarian crisis for relief, but think of the untold thousand who is are injured and wounded inside the cities who no longer have relief coming to them. >> eliot: this is a humanitarian crisis. i do not see the international community organizing itself to handle the refugee crisis in turkey jordan, or beginning to act in a way that is appropriate for what is going on in syria. am i
back from afghanistan and iraq, is higher than it is across the general population. >> exactly right. the estimates vary depending on the age group and the geography from a few points higher to double the general unemployment rate. among younger veterans coming back nonofficers that is enlisted the estimate is that the unemployment rate is as much as double the average population which is a really searing indictment of our nation if you think about it. these are young men and women called to serve the country and their contemporaries are employed and they can't find jobs. >> eliot: the other aspect of this is this bill was paid for. i've read all of the articles and statements. explain to us because it directly rebuts the republican claim this bill was paid for. explain to us how that was. >> paid for by savings closing loopholes, direct dollar for dollar. all of this talk about the deficit and destroying the budget and so forth and so on. first of all even if it hadn't been paid for in my view, as a member of
not ever. >> i believe our education such as in south africa and iraq everywhere like -- such as -- >> i'm done talking now. >> jennifer: someone is always in our "war room," check us out online at current.com/thewarroom. you can check out our exclusive extras. next tuesday is voter registration day, and progressive groups all across the country are going all out to get as many people as registered as
, but i like to say it any way. of course i thought the iraq war was a disaster, but they didn't start the war and they were sent in the middle of that mess. i'm curious about your politics. a lot of people have differing issues about veterans. >> right. >> right. >> cenk: the democrats a lot of times stands up for more veterans benefits but a lot of veterans support republicans, i don't know why. more pro-war? what's your take on that? >> as long as i stay with my take and don't go democratic and just go veteran. just us as a country you know, we haven't taken care of our veterans. you can name any war. it's just an ongoing battle that we have hoo t tesesnsnsility fo r goingng to happen. you know it's going to happen, but peace will exist and providence exists. we need to look out for our peace. >> cenk: if we're willing to start the war we should take care of our guys when they come back. when you perform sometimes you do an obama impersonation. >> it's pretty easy, people like it. >> cenk: go ahead. >> the world is easy. i could make it sound important. kellogg's frosted flakes are
that he was going to burn a qur'an in iraq, he said, i apologize for people being so insensitive. people criticize president bush for a lot of things, but when it came to the muslim world he didn't want to make them an enemy. mitt romney place into the narrative that we're out to undermine them and destroy their civilization. it's really in my view it's a sign of desperation. he knows that his campaign is not going the way he wants and he was sort of rolling the dice with this. >> jennifer: there is some suspicion, a lot of public speculation that this attack on libya and in egypt was not really a result of the film, but more a coordinateed attack to coincide with 9/11 by terrorist organizations. there are now 50 marines and two destroyers going to libya. what is going on? >> well, basically there is no doubt about the fact that there are groups in that part of the world who buy into the bin laden theirtive. this is the first 9/11 or the second one since bin laden has been killed, and they want to show that they're still viable. this horrible movie gave impetus to their narrative and god
years ago i promised to end the war in iraq. we did. [applause] i promised to refocus on the terrorists who attacked on 9/11, and we have. in 2014, our longest war will be over. al-qaeda is on the bath to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> cenk: hard to argue with that. no turn to go mitt romney and paul paul's lack of experience of foreign policy, here is some good lines as well. >> obama: my opponent and his running mate are "new" to foreign policy. [applause] but from all that we've seen and heard they want to take us back to an era of blustering and blundering that cost america so dearly. you don't call russia our number one enemy--not al-qaeda-- al-qaeda--russia--unless you're still stuck in a cold war mind warp. >> cenk: towards the end of his speech, president obama had my favorite line of the night. >> obama: you're the reason a young immigrant grew up here, went to school here and pledge allegiance to our flag will not be deported from the only country she has ever called home. by selfless soldiers won't be kicked out of the military because of who they are and who they lov
. by the way. >> thanks, chenk. >> when they did eavesdrop on our soldiers in iraq, what is the first thing they listened to? phone sex. of course! that's what they always do when they do warrantless wiretapping you let power get out of control. eliot, what do you have for us? >> chenk, i just got to tell you that story you were just talking about, hugely important. we have whistle blowers from the n.s.o. on a couple of months ago. what goes on there is without boundaries. it's unbelievable how much they're getting away with. the 47% that mitt romney has made famous, we're going to be talking about that. it's going to be an amazing thing to see how this filters out. is this the beginning of the end for mitt romney or is this going to get his base excited because this is what they belieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieieie i look at her, and i just want to give her everything. yeah you -- you know, everything can cost upwards of...[ whistles ] i did not want to think about that. relax, relax, relax. look at me, look at me. three words, dad -- e-trade financial consult
, in iraq, they kicked us out. >> how long would john mccain have stayed. we knew in libya we knew in north africa what the demeanor of john mccain was from the get-go. >> cenk: wait a minute. i think we went in a smarter way than mccain would have done. so that would make a difference. >> a really big difference. >> cenk: see, on this i'm totally with lupe. you think mccain would have done anything worse than killing i. citizens without a fair trial trial. >> on foreign policy i don't think mccain would have used diplomacy the way this president has. >> if you're going to to debate this come at them. don't call them stupid, dumb, silly, or young idiots, because then you're not taking them seriously. >> cenk: that's a good point. you have to engage substantially. in the website we think you should vote no matter what. and rocky anderson and gary johnson is an independent. look through the candidates and find out what you think for yourself. when we come back, we've got a very important story--o chick-fil-a. do you remember how they were going to "kumbaya" and hold hands with gay folks. the
come back from iraq and afghanistan, maybe jeopardized from the right to vote. let me tell you one thing. in the texas voter i.d., they were not able to use federal i.d. documents. a veteran told me that because his i.d. did not have a date on it under the texas law, he could not use his permanent federal veterans i.d. card. is that absurd? an outrage as one could ever believe. >> exactly right. in the pennsylvania litigation, which is still pending the court and the state of pennsylvania acknowledged it could not point to one single case of voter impersonation fraud which, of course, was the underlying predicate to their entire statute. let me ask you what you're saying and our generic feeling about the obligation to permit people to vote, to get them to vote, moderate republicans coming back into the fold who are saying you know what? we have to push back against the republican fringe and make voting something we believe in. we'll work with you on the voter registration effort and pushing back against bad voter i.d
like others, that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. it turned out that potentially wasn't the case. although maybe they were in syria. i think governor romney will be focused as president on building a robust american economy. having trade and having a peace through strength foreign policy and hopefully that deters us from ending up in war. having said that, look, we're the shiny city on the hill. we've had a bipartisan consensus from president truman and president kennedy president johnson. ronald reagan. that we believe in american values and we're going to stand strong for those values. >> jennifer: for sure. and i think everybody wants to do that regardless of which party you're in. you want to stand strong for american values. but mitt romney has been saying and he continues to say that the president has been going around the world apologizing for america's values when people who have checked us out like in "the washington post," politifact said that's a four pinocchio statement. that's an utter
just for veterans coming home from iraq and afghanistan. republicans did filibuster it. i think two or three republicans broke ranks a voted with democrats. and this was a classic case of republican -- it was a great idea, and everybody wants to help the veterans but the republicans don't want to help barack obama get another victory for the election and mitch mcconnell basically said that, that they were all for this, but they are not going to do it now because it would look good for president obama. >> yes and i didn't even see it. >> bill: yeah, it was politics over policy, and it is regretful. nancy pelosi was optimistic friday that democrats were going to be able to win the house. and she said if democrats win by ten. they get the house back. >> i think democrats have a chance to gain seats, and that's the kind of reality of it. but they don't have a chance to get the house. i think it is more like 35 to 40 seats they would need to win back the house. that's a tall task. but weird things happen in politics. i don't think this is going to be one of the things
this morning they're also made up of our military on duty in iraq and afghanistan who shame on us, don't make enough money in combat to have to pay federal income taxes and when they come back from combat, when they come back from iraq and afghanistan and go to the v.a. hospital, i guess by mitt romney's definition, they're part of the moocher class. they're part of the 47 because they're getting government benefits. of course, mitt romney is, too by taking advantage of his tax credits. he's so wrong on the facts that as we've pointed out, scott brown, senator of massachusetts says uh-huh, i don't agree with mitt on this. susan collins senator from maine, republican doesn't agree with this. linda mcmahon hope she loses no, i don't agree with him. yesterday, another u.s. senator republican senator dean heller came out from nevada and said mitt romney was wrong with his vision of america and his disdain for 50% almost of americans. so that's the first point. again how wrong mitt romney is on the facts. i know you want t
. as we wind down the war in iraq and in -- wars in iraq and afghanistan, let's bring the money home and put it to work here in the united states. >> obama: after a decade of war it's time to do some nation building right here at home. [ cheering ] >> bill: yes yes, yes indeed. so big line-up today. major garrett from the "national journal" will be here as a "friend of bill." we'll be joined by dave zirin sports editor for the nation to take a look at the nfl deal and we'll go out on the campaign trail with ginger gibson from politico who's been following -- moving around with romney and ryan in ohio. but first... >> this is the "full court press." >> bill, have you downloaded angry birds to your new iphone? >> bill: no, i haven't. i don't know whether it is automatic. >> the most popular and financial successful noble game in history is now getting a spin-off. folks behind angry birds are giving the enemy pigs from that game their own space called bad piggies, the chubby green pigs, the enemies of the birds will
: four years ago i promised toen the war in iraq. we did. [ cheers and applause ] . >> obama: i promised to refocus on the terrorist who actually attacked us in 9/11. and we have. in 2014 our longest war will be over. cheer [ applause ] >> obama: a new tower rises above the new york skyline. al-qaeda is on the path to defeat, and osama bin laden is dead. >> stephanie: as we were saying the only empty chair at our convention, osama bin laden's. snap. just great lines last night. john kerry asked osama bin laden if he is better off than he was four years ago. >> i thought john kerry did a great job last night. >> stephanie: absolutely. >> everybody did a great job. >> stephanie: yeah, it was hard to pick highlights. >> i agree with you. and president clinton was amazing. >> stephanie: the man can give a speech. the story of the convention he was ripping for 40% of it. >> i did not know that. he is incredible. what a mind. incredible heart and mind. >> stephanie: the fact that he can present facts with so much charm and humor in a way that is so understandable to ordinary p
in iraq veterans or military families. which i thought was really remarkable. >> that is beyond remarkable. in high school, i've said this also -- i feel as though -- when you get to the end of the weeks you start repeating what you've been saying earlier in the week. i did high school debate. we talked about how you -- >> bill: i did it. >> you know. you flow your arguments. >> bill: yeah. >> i think mitt romney conceded a whole sheet of paper. they conceded the foreign policy debate to the president. they seeded the veterans debate to the president and the president, not only did he extend those arguments last night but he also basically said listen, this is why you can vote for me. if there's no other reason, vote for me because i care about our veterans. i take our veterans lives seriously. as president, i have to send people to war. i've hugged their parents and i've hugged their loved ones and i won't put our troops in harm's way for no reason and beyond that point you know, we have done everything we can in f
stephanie miller show." welcome to it. >> it wasn't iraq. >> stephanie: 1-800-steph-12. the phone until toll free. mary from missouri, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: well, hello. >> stephanie: hi. >> caller: hold on. >> stephanie: bad time? i'll wait here. >> caller: okay. i'm sorry. i was on hold for a long time. i had to go pee. >> stephanie: thank you for that. go ahead mary. >> caller: too much? welcome back. i wanted to ask what is it with all of the trolls that have i guess nothing better to do than to call you? >> stephanie: i know right? >> caller: i have fox news blocked from my dvr thing. you can't even get that channel if you try to in my house. so i don't get why they waste their time if they don't agree -- if they disagree with everything you say they have their own agenda. do they think they might change my mind if they call in with one of their -- points? >> stephanie: sometimes a few guys have gotten me by sitting on their remote and getting me by accident. they butt dial
that we do not have enough troops to go in iraq. and later he retired. and then he was proven extremely right, which is the worst thing in the bush administration. of course he has to leave immediately. he's a hero. not a lot of generals spoke out. and there was a lot of criticism criticism. why didn't anything say anything? well general shinseki warned us. if you go to war or not you better have enough troops. we didn't, and he was right. >> al gore: they forced him into an early retirement. nay toughnative of hawai'i. a very fine man. >> jennifer: i'm interested in how they're constructing this evening. barney frank was jumped in some way. we're not sure what happened there. maybe she'll bring him on later. but much to our disappointment, but shinseki, of course, focuses on veterans. this is the second night in a row that there has been some light shined on the veteran community. next up after this is a couple--one mayor nutter of philadelphia and then governor hickenlooper, former governor of colorado. and then sister simone campbell of network. a fascinating choice to come and spea
and barbara lee and maxine waters went around the country trying to build opposition to the war in iraq. >> right. >> bill: and at that party last night, i heard that there was -- a lot of excitement on the floor yesterday when paul ryan showed up. for the first time. right? what was that like? >> i actually was not engaged in the talking that went on or the secret service that was there. but you know, he becomes a hero of the republican caucus. and great for them. let's really define the difference. >> bill: they gave a standing ovation when he came in. here's our hero, the guy who's going to save us. charlie wrangle told me last night that he went up -- when they were all applauding, that he walked up, too. and applauded. they said what are you doing? he said i just want to thank you. thank you for the democrats and the democratic party thanks you. i thank you. our country thanks you because you have made medicare the issue in this campaign. >> that's right. >> bill: really has. >> they cannot win. they're tryi
a veterans jobs corps. because so many veterans coming home from iraq and afghanistan with all of the skills can't find a job. first lady has been working on this problem with dr. jill biden. this would go even beyond that. billion dollars. i mean what's wrong with this? nobody could be against it. the republicans are really for it. but they filibustered it and some of the republicans privately, at least admitted why they filibustered. they filibustered it for one reason only. yes, it was a good idea. but if they pass this, this would put more people back to work. this would mean the unemployment rate would go down. this would mean that president obama would get credit for doing something more for veterans than creating more jobs and so the republicans, in the senate, blocked it, filibustered a great measure to put veterans back to work. they were willing to show themselves as anti-job and anti- veteran in order to continue to be anti-obama. that was in the senate. and in the house, it was sort of equally outra
swear they already did. they found mwd in iraq. apparently they were found at his house in kenya. >> stephanie: here is mitt romney talking about armageddon caused by obama. dogs and cats living together. >> romney: syria has witnessed the killing of tens of thousands of people. the president of egypt is a member of the muslim brotherhood. our ambassador of libya was assassinated in a terrorist attack. iran is moving toward nuclear weapons capability. we somehow feel we're at the mercy of events rather than shaping events. >> dictating events all over the world. we need to be is have military bases throughout the middle east and when i'm president not only will we be bombing iran -- >> stephanie: i didn't think the world could hate anyone quite as much as george w. bush but romney -- he's already preinsulted the world and he's not even close to being in office. john in las vegas you're on "the stephanie miller show." welcome, john. >> caller: thanks for taking my call. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i w
that they are going and that, therefore, it is worth starting a third regional war that would make iraq and afghanistan look like a warm-up act. >> eliot: other than military action, sanctions are the primary vehicle we're using primary mechanism to stop them. are the sanctions imposing a sufficient price upon iran's economy so that they are actually willing to comply? >> they're crushing the iranian economy. these are the strongest sanctions enacted on any country ever. their currency has fallen by 40% in the last few months. they are losing billions of dollars in oil sales they're unable to sell the oil they're producing. the question isn't is there enough pressure. the question is what's the deal? what's that pressure leading to? we backed them into a corner. now we have to find a door they can walk through, help them save face. that will probably take until november after the elections when they know that they've got the -- the guy they're dealing with -- november of this year. both sides are waiting for the november e
. this is the president who brought osama bin laden to justice, who ended the war in iraq and is ending the war in afghanistan. >> i could have done that! >> this is the president who ended don't ask don't tell so that love of country not love of another determines fitness for service. who made equal pay for equal work the law of the land. >> yeah. >> this is the president who saved the american auto industry from extinction, the american financial industry from self-destruction, the american economy from full-blown depression. who added 4.5 million private sector jobs in the last two and a half years more than in george bush's eight years in office. >> so? >> stephanie: i underspoke. i said three and a half because i'm still drunk. 4.5 million jobs. we're joined now i love this. van jones is sick because he was at the same party as i was at, i think. until 1:00 in the morning. ian kim joins us from rebuild the dream. we're so thrilled you could make it. >> how you doing? >> stephanie: i'm buying he was sick. he was doi
. >> exactly. and if you support the iraq war and continue to support tax cuts for millionaires you are not allowed to cam plain. >> stephanie: president obama said this. >> obama: my biggest failure as president is not reforming the immigration law. [ applause ] >> stephanie: he pointed out one key difference between him and romney on that subject. >> obama: he would veto the dream act, he is uncertain about what his plan on reform would be, and who considers the arizona law model for the nation, and his main solution is self deportation. >> stephanie: is he trying to back pedal out of that? because he was pretty clear that. >> uh-huh. this president sent national guard troops to the boarder. >> stephanie: somebody asked him about that. >> romney: time and again we're not going to round up 12 million people and have everyone deported. our system isn't to deport that. >> what i meant to say is i was veto the dream act. >> stephanie: he didn't answer the question. >> thank god for univision. all y'all have got to go on line and watch this. i have never seen an america
's that 9/12 mentality that allowed them to invade iraq. >> yeah. >> stephanie: teresa in florida real quick. welcome. >> caller: hi. first of all, i'm from new york the only reason i'm in flori-da is to take care of my mine. >> i go to florida to hear new york accents. >> caller: right. gloria steinman said mitt romney was talking to a group of people and she went to shook this woman's hand and she pulled herring hand away and he said i understand because you are not wearing makeup. >> stephanie: oh! 29 minutes after the hour. it is the "stephanie miller show." ♪ (vo) jennifer granholm ... >>for every discouraged voter, there are ten angry ones taking action. trickle down does not work. in romney's world, cars get the elevator and the workers get the shaft. that is a whole bunch of bunk. the powerful may steal an election, but they can't steal democracy. of sununu, you're wrong. mitt romney, you're wrong. we need more teachers, not fewer teachers and more cops and more firefighters that support our from silver screens... to flat screens... twizzlerize your enter
at the casualties of the u.s., how many men and women died in the iraq and afghanistan wars? multiply that by 90% and see how many people have died. and ask yourself just because they're muslim, just because their skin is brown just because their neighbor or a small minority of them have taken on this kind of violent act of attacking an embassy that's not everybody. that's a few people and if you want to use that as a band-aid excuse over your willingness to go to war then you don't understand what war is. >> john: let me bring up one thing. in fairness to governor romney, he hasn't advocated invading or occupying any countries. he's talking about strategic air strikes on iran which we don't want to see happen. >> who is that going to hurt? 90% women and children. that's my point. >> john: let me bring up president obama. a lot of progressives don't like drone strikes. and we don't like the fact that so many civilians have been killed by the drone strikes. taking a step back, it appears the reality of the situation whe
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